Richard Boyd Barrett Demands Advisory Minutes, Slams CPL Contracts

I've been looking for transparency on the advice on which you're basing your decisions since the 20th of February in the first briefing and I've asked on six occasions and never got an answer for the minutes, the written advices and the position papers of the expert advisory group that advises Neffet and the government and I've never even received the courtesy of an answer. Will you publish those minutes, those written advices, and those any papers they have produced? Tomorrow is May Day and you heaped praise upon frontline healthcare workers earlier as everybody rightly has. Could you then explain why the hundreds of nurses and other healthcare workers who have applied on the call for Ireland to work for the health service in this public emergency? health emergency have been given the worst possible contracts with CPL, an agency recruitment firm, which are three month temporary contracts with no sick leave and with no right to the unfair dismissals act. Is that the way to treat the people, the heroic people, healthcare workers who volunteered to work in a public health emergency? I'll see. Thanks, David. I know all the details of that. I'll have to check up on it. As far as I understand it, anyone is entitled to access the Unfair Dismissals Act. That's the law that applies to all workers. And obviously there are sick pay and sick leave agents in for everyone at the moment who needs to take time off, particularly as a consequence of COVID. But I'll certainly check into that. I'll come back to you with the written reply. Quite a number of deputies have asked questions that are questions of NEFET and questions of the expert advisory group. I'm not on NEFET and I'm not on the expert advisory group. And others have asked questions relating to the HSE and have asked me to publish documents that are not in my possession, nor are they in the possession of my department. So I'm very happy to answer questions that I know the answer to. And I'm very happy to publish documents that I have. But some of the questions that are being asked are really questions for the CMO. And they're questions for the CEO of the HSE. And I can't answer questions on their behalf. But I can ask them to answer your questions and I will do so. That's the contract. And I've read it. And it's very clear. It's a temporary special purpose contract for three months. So when we need permanent increases in staffing in our health service, we're giving the worst contracts possible to people who have seeking to work in the public health emergency. Can you just issue an instruction to NEFET to tell the expert advisory group to publish the minutes and the advices of the expert advisory group so we can hear what the scientists and clinicians are actually saying. A further question. The leaving cert. Why are you continuing with the leaving cert? When we don't know where we're going to be, when the stress that those students, the uncertainty and so on that they are suffering and when a majority of leaving cert students are looking for certification that doesn't require the stress of sitting the exam and indeed when many of them may have underlying health conditions where they'd be very well worried about going into that environment. Can you please answer that question? Thanks, David. Just coming back to what you mentioned there earlier, NEFET has agreed to publish the minutes of its meetings and its advice to government has already published. In terms of the expert advisory group, that's not advice that I ever see. It's not in my possession. And there may or may not be reasons as to why they can or cannot publish it, but the CMO is the best person to answer that. I think there was a good debate on the leaving cert last week in this chamber and the vast majority of people who spoke from most parties, from what I've been informed, spoke in favour of the decision to continue with the leaving cert. And the plan to do exactly that is being developed at the moment by the Department of Education with a view to the exam starting, I think it's on the 29th of July. And the thinking behind that is that the alternative, which would be predictive marking, raises all sorts of difficulties as well. The concerns, for example, by some students that their teacher might give them a grade that they believe is fair or, for example, that it may be based on the mocks and students doing the mocks didn't realise that the mocks were going to be the basis for working out their results. So there's huge difficulties with predictive marking. It's not impossible, but I think if it were done, we'd be dealing with the whole raft of issues with regard to it. 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