Richard Boyd Barrett likens IBRC probe to Dickens' 'Jarndyce' case
Richard Boyd Barrett spoke on 4 Dec 2019 about the IBRC "site serve" investigation and warned that escalating legal costs risk consuming any recovered funds. He invoked Charles Dickens' Jarndyce and Jarndyce as a metaphor and argued the inquiry must deliver truth and clarity while preventing lawyers from "making an absolute fortune."
Main concern - legal costs and the Jarndyce analogy
Barrett compared the situation to Dickens' Bleak House and the endless Jarndyce and Jarndyce case, saying the original issue can be swamped as lawyers extract large fees. He warned that costs cannot be allowed to escalate to the point where they far exceed the sums under investigation and become unjustifiable to the public.
Commission status and independence
The transcript records that the matter is the subject of a commission of investigation established by the Dáil and that such a commission operates independently from government. It was described as being like a court or tribunal and not open to interference, with accountability and extensions governed by the Commissions of Investigation Act 2004.
Cost estimate and reporting timetable
The record refers to a 30 million figure as an estimate by officials based on costs incurred to date and cost trajectories of other commissions, and stresses that it is only an estimate. The Taoiseach extended the commission's reporting deadline to the end of the year after receiving the fourth interim report on 10 June and anticipated another report before the end of the year.
Standards investigations and former deputy Darren Murphy
The Standards in Public Office Commission was cited as able to investigate a former member's conduct. The transcript notes that former deputy Darren Murphy said he would cooperate with any statutory investigation and that he was urged to do so.
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I think probably Charles Dickens' best book was a book called Bleak House which starts with the tale of a legal case called Jarndyce and Jarndyce which has gone on for generations and generations to the point that nobody actually knows what the case is about anymore and but one thing is clear in Jarndyce and Jarndyce is that the lawyers are making an absolute fortune out of the whole thing such that the original issue and any monies that might have arisen out of it will all be hoovered up by the legal profession and the reason for the case starting will be will fade into the mists of time and that kind of is the problem with this now because on the one hand the site serve issue and the IBRC site serve issue is something that we do need truth and clarity on because there's a lot at stake in it but these costs cannot be allowed to escalate to a point where they are far in excess if some of the figures being bandied around are credible than the sums of money that were actually being investigated by the investigation that would be bizarre and unacceptable I think to the public so it would be interesting to hear what the Taoiseach has to say on that front two to five minutes teacher because I'm going to try and keep the time thanks thanks thanks I can be I can be shorter than that on this occasion this is a commission investigation and I need to be careful what I say about it just in relation to former deputy Darren Murphy I answered a question on this earlier but I can confirm that the standards of office standards standards commission the standards in public office commission can investigate a former member in relation to their conduct as a member and deputy or former deputy Murphy Murphy has said that he is willing to cooperate fully with any statutory investigation and I believe he should do so and said that to him last night in terms of the Cregan commission this was a commission of investigation established by the Dáil it was demanded by the opposition at the time there was some reluctance in government to do it but the government exceeded the demands from the opposition at the time to establish the commission as it is a commission investigation it operates independently from government it's a little bit like a court or a tribunal and we can't interfere in its work the 30 million figure is an estimate by my officials and that is based on the costs incurred to date and the cost trajectory of other commissions of investigation but we accept that it is an estimate and is only an estimate in relation to the time frame for reporting the accountability of a commission for investigation is set out in the commissions of investigation act 2004 the establishment of a commission is by way of a government order that's been approved in draft by both houses of the Oireachtas the order identifies a specified minister who is responsible for receiving the interim and final reports and for granting any extensions of time frame and for other administrative tasks however as you know both the previous Taoiseach and I consulted with the Oireachtas representatives at every stage where a decision was required in relation to IBRC following requests from the commission in its fourth interim report which I received on the 10th of June I extended the reporting deadline to the end of this year and I have no information to indicate that the commission will not be met so based on this we would anticipate another report before the end of this year and we will see if that happens the information will still be met as much matter which is reasonable I did cannot assist��nd and I will see you or even more comments where you press conference I built on I am closer to the table and atenção and do whatever you do whoever Uh.. can constantly reach out to the table you know people inside of this region if you recall theseCapital steps where you have an attempt to be your birthday to overcome your birthday
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