Paul Murphy: No Military Use - Clarifying Marine Robotics

Yeah, thanks a lot. Yeah, so earlier we spoke kind of in the abstract about dual use technology and the fact that things that you develop may be used in military purposes but you're not specifically developing military purposes. Just concretely, is anything that you have developed being used by foreign militaries? If so, which? Or perhaps you don't know whether it's foreign militaries but you know armaments manufacturers have used it? The short answer is no, no, it's nothing we, our group has developed has been used by military anywhere. Okay, and one other then if I have the time, what's your involvement in the EU Marine Robotics Organization? Is Chris like a partner or? Yeah, so there's two things called EU Marine Robotics. One is an annual conference every year which we have hosted and I've chaired which all the European funded projects in marine robotics come together to share their research. So we've chaired that. There's a separate EU Marine Robotics Association which has a fee of membership. Okay, but it's nothing to do with the conferences? No. Okay, in terms of the conferences, I know in certainly 2023 there was involvement of a researcher from Israel in 2024. There's mentions of options for research in Israel and Croatia with great statements available. Are Israeli companies or researchers still involved in the conferences? Sorry, so the conference we hosted in in 2023 was IEEE. So the largest engineering institution globally is American but it's got sub-areas all the way around the world and they hold conferences in America every year and they hold a conference that alternates between Europe and Pacific Rim, alternate years. So we hosted that in 23. It's been in Aberdeen three or four times. It's everything ocean engineering. It's everything from oil and gas to wind. It's not a defense conference but some of the people who attend because of the use of robotics. So when you host an oil conference like that, it's a visa issue. It's what's used as the betting net and the threads of the topics you're running the conference on. We're not checking people's CV for the area of research they're in unless there's a security flag or something that comes through visa and other areas.